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    Is anybody familiar with a "rock fish" which stings and injects poison? rock fish is the term the doctor used.The doctor said it is common in playa. The beach bar bartender looked at the sting and ran for lifeguard.VERY painful.

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    You sure you didn't step on a sting ray or an urchin? Even that would be rare.

    STONEFISH

    The Stonefish is the most venomous fish in the world. Its dorsal area is lined with 13 spines that release venom from two sacs attached to each spine. Its venom causes severe pain with possible shock, paralysis, and tissue death depending on the depth of the penetration.[2] This level can be fatal to humans if not given medical attention within a couple of hours. Immediate first aid treatment requires the immobilisation of venom at penetration site; depending on the depth of penetration this can be achieved either by firm constrictive bandaging or by a managed tourniquet sited between wound and proximal flexure.



    The venom consists of a mixture of proteins, including the hemolytic stonustoxin, the neurotoxic trachynilysin and the cardioactive cardioleputin; an antivenin is available.

    The venom is protein based, and it can be (partially) denatured by the application of a very hot compress to the injury site. Some relief can be gained from infiltrating the wound with a local anaesthetic. This is a temporary measure to reduce localized pain and shock. Medical aid must be sought at the earliest opportunity. Typically, surviving victims suffer localized nerve damage occasionally leading to atrophy of adjoining muscle tissues.

    There have been unproven reports of osteo-arthritic sufferers experiencing improved mobility and reduction in joint pain following envenomation episode. The responsible agent has not been identified.

    The pain is said to be so bad that the victims of its sting want the affected limb to be amputated. The poisonous sting of Scorpion Fish and Lionfish are said to deliver almost the same level of pain. The Stonefish is also described by many as the worst pain known to man.[
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    I'll take 2, please. Please bring them to me over here.

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    i do not know what it was, never saw it. i was in 3 ft of water at the edge of the turbulent water. but the doctor did pull out 7 tiny spines.

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    What beach were you on?
    I'll take 2, please. Please bring them to me over here.

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    in front of the blue parrot

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    Wow...I have never known anybody that stepped on one. I wasn't even aware that there were stonfish there. So, did the victim end up with all the symptoms I posted about?

    I have seen urchins while snorkeling...they scare the hell out of me. But, they have long black spines.
    I'll take 2, please. Please bring them to me over here.

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    The victom was my novia, and i have never seen any body cry that hard. the lifeguards poured vinegar on the sting and applied ice, everybody was familiar with this sting, said it is common, but the lifeguard and paramedicswere moving quickly! called an ambulance and went to the sacbe urgent care. By the time we got to hospital she said she could not feel anything from the hip to her toes. doctor administered 4 different drugs total over 2 hrs.One of the drugs was a painkiller, which worked well! The doctor said without the drugs the pain would last over 12 hrs.When we left the hospital, she was mostly ok , and after 2 days ,only had pain in the knee joint.

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    Was reading about it......

    First-aid treatment for a stonefish sting includes washing the affected area with vinegar or seawater, and soaking it in hot (but not scalding) water for 30-90 minutes to ease the pain. Do not cut and suck out the venom as it can lead to a secondary bacterial infection.

    Hope the person is doing well......

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    You should have peed on it right away...

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    Crazyness, I've never heard of that in playa, but I do know people who have been stung by jellyfish that had similar reactions.

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    That's kind of bizarre. Are there even any rocks around there for the fish to seek shelter in?

    (Hope your novia is doing better. That's a scary thing)
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    shite - that is scary, I did not know stonefish were in this area of Mexico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopper1050 View Post
    Is anybody familiar with a "rock fish" which stings and injects poison? rock fish is the term the doctor used.The doctor said it is common in playa. The beach bar bartender looked at the sting and ran for lifeguard.VERY painful.
    Not that common but they do exist.
    To put things in perspective while you may find, say one thousand Grunts on Jardines Reef but you'd be extremely lucky to spot even one of these amazingly beautiful fish
    They call them "pez piedra" here. In English you usually call them Stonefish or, as they are known here Sorpionfish. You'll find a few shots of them in my Picasa web album under Spotted Scorpionfish.
    Nasty things, poisonously speaking, but when you make them stir the pectoral fins' colouration is amazing in its hues of yellow, red and mauve: usually, the more coulourful the fins, the more poisonous the proud owner is. The poison is injected via the spines on the dorsal fin: I've touched their dorsals with the underside of my fin to - scientifically, of course... - investigate the procedure and the spines moved up and down like a sewing machine's needle, and with quite some force.

    They inhabit all Playa's reefs and are sometimes found near shore (but very, very rarely, they are much more afraid of humans than we are of them).

    Kitesurfers setting off from the north end of Chunzumbul, near Punta Esmeralda have been stung by these pesky blighters, one more reason why every single one of them wears soled water shoes.
    If stung get to a medical facility straight away (you'll find marine life stings-and-bites specialists at the SSS Hyperbaric Chamber on the corner of 10th Avenue and 28th Street) because the poison can induce respiratory system paralysis and eventually be fatal - depending on the size of the specimen and the amount of poison injected. It will probably be the best 400 Pesos you'll ever spend.
    Last edited by Daddy B; 09-08-2008 at 10:50 AM.
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