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Old 07-10-2008, 09:30 AM
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7/9/2008, 8:57 p.m. EDT
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MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico's Environmental Department is closing down at least five small, upscale hotels and three other developments south of Cancun.

Officials say the businesses don't have permission to operate in the protected area near the Tulum Ruins.

Inspectors and soldiers arrived Monday to post closed signs. They say they will be back on Friday to permanently close the businesses and begin clearing out guests.

The closures were officially announced Wednesday.

Hotel owners say their papers are in order and the government can't shut them down.

Federal environmental prosecutor Patricio Patron says the hotels could eventually be demolished if the owners can't prove their legal right to the land. But he says that will take a year or more.
I read on a Tulum forum that the Mezzanine, Diamante and El Paraiso restaurant are included in the properties.

Anyone confirm? Michele?
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Old 07-10-2008, 09:51 AM
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Wow, that's huge news. We were planning on visiting El Paraiso for a day prolly next week. We are heading out of town Saturday, praps we may take a quick drive by and see what we can see then, if you haven't heard anything further before.
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This really sucks.
It makes me sad.
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I read on a Tulum forum that the Mezzanine, Diamante and El Paraiso restaurant are included in the properties.

Anyone confirm? Michele?
Probably. Who knows. If everyone had ANY idea how many times things like this and land invasions happen, your heads would spin. I divorced myself from the idea of developing in Tulum a LONG time ago. It's a train wreck down there.
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Old 07-10-2008, 03:07 PM
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According to Por Esto, the hotels were guilty of "“abusos de explotación forestal” and/or "por violentar el uso de suelo turistico forestal y carecer de estudio de impacto ambiental." According to another source, the affected hotels are Mezzanine, DiamanteK, Mayan Grille, Alternature, Comercializadora Ivera, Caleta Tankah, and Euroestar Blue.

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Old 07-10-2008, 04:27 PM
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Maybe a "fine or fee" could be paid.
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:53 PM
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more on the story:

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Mexico launches battle for Tulum beach

By TRACI CARL
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

MEXICO CITY -- The soldiers seemed out of place in paradise.

They stood guard at the sandy entrances to the exclusive, beachside hotels, holding their guns while inspectors took careful measurements and studied documents.

Tourists from around the world sauntered by on their way to spa treatments or sunned themselves on private decks overlooking the Mexican Caribbean's blue-green waters, puzzled but mostly unconcerned.

Until Monday, when the soldiers returned with federal officials who slapped "closed" signs across the hotel entrances and said they would be back on Friday to start clearing out guests.

The federal government's closure of five small, exclusive hotels on Tulum's breathtaking stretch of white-sand beaches has created an uproar over who has the title to one of the few still-to-be-fully-developed coastlines left along the exclusive Riviera Maya. At least five other developments near Tulum's seaside Mayan ruins are also under investigation.

The actions carried into Thursday, when the federal Environmental Department announced it had shut down construction of an Acapulco development that didn't meet environmental standards.

Visitors driving south from Cancun find most of the coast has been divided up and sold off to hotel chains. There are monster, all-inclusive resorts boasting hundreds of rooms and a maze of swimming pools, as well as sprawling communities of vacation villas and beach clubs.

Then there is Tulum, a tiny hippy-style town that started as a backpacker retreat. Most hotels were a collection of primitive thatched huts stuck into the sand and surrounded by beachside jungle.

But it has recently transformed itself into a chic eco-resort, one where travelers pay up to US$500 a night to practice yoga on the beach and stay in minimalist Mayan suites where flatscreen televisions and iPod docking stations are powered by solar energy.

Title disputes have haunted the Tulum beach for decades. At the heart of this dispute, however, is whether the hotels were built in a federal park.

Federal environmental prosecutor Patricio Patron says the land is protected and the government wants to eventually demolish the buildings and leave the area untouched. But he says bulldozers won't arrive for a year or more as the cases work their way through Mexican courts.

John Kendall, owner of Mezzanine, a 10-room resort featuring a beachside restaurant and bar, says the federal government just wants to take back land that is worth millions of dollars.

"The pretext is totally fabricated," he said.

Ari Kantrowitz, a New York City graduate student, said he and his girlfriend were in the pool Monday when two bureaucrats walked up, carrying clipboards and signs that said "closed" in Spanish.

"Suddenly, walking behind them were four guys in full fatigues, helmets and carrying M16 rifles. It was somewhat surreal," he said. "We sort of just sat in the pool ... After a bit, I assumed it was the Mexican government and not some rogue militia."

Kendall has held nightly meetings with his guests, assuring them that he will find alternative lodging if they are forcibly evicted on Friday.

But guest Richard Beaver and his wife aren't waiting to find out what happens. The couple from New Zealand plan to check out first thing Friday. They drove up Monday as soldiers and government officials were posting the closed signs.

"There were guys walking around with big guns, and my wife didn't want to stay," he said. "We thought we had come to a really nice place, but to look at that was pretty intimidating."

Patron says officials will let guests stay until they are scheduled to leave, even if it means they stay past Friday. But he warned the hotels against taking on new clients.

He says the developments have yet to show adequate titles, are too close to the Mayan ruins and are built in an area for protected plant and animal species, including the towering chit palm.

"We are forced to comply with the law," he said.

Hotel owners argue they've been there for up to two decades without problems, and their businesses are built around protecting the environment.

Roberto Palazuelos, a Mexican soap opera actor and president of the Tulum Hotel Owners Association, says the federal government's paperwork to create the protected area in the 1980s was never done correctly. His Hotel Diamante K is among the five that have been closed.

"I think they want to take away the land and divide it between themselves," he said.

The state government issued the land titles and says they are valid. Tourism officials have been visiting the hotels this week and supporting their fight to keep their land.

In the meantime, urban refugees seeking peace and quiet in Mexico's jungle squeeze in one last spa treatment and wonder when the soldiers will return.
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Federal environmental prosecutor Patricio Patron says the land is protected and the government wants to eventually demolish the buildings and leave the area untouched
I'm sorry, but I'm calling B.S. on this statement- does anybody believe that this property will remain "untouched" if this expropriation goes through? I don't buy it for a minute. This is the problem with these environmental laws.
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So, i take it Tulum for the day is out of the question
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So, i take it Tulum for the day is out of the question
We are heading to Punta Allen...... Have you been there Red?
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So, i take it Tulum for the day is out of the question
The beach is still there
Stop at Pollo Bronco and grab a bunch of chickens and the incredible potatoes
Hit up a market for beverages
You're all set
The last time the beach club was closed (for unknown reasons) the beds were still there ----- and free.
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We are heading to Punta Allen...... Have you been there Red?
Nope, never been! But i would love to go if i have a free ride

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The beach is still there
Stop at Pollo Bronco and grab a bunch of chickens and the incredible potatoes
Hit up a market for beverages
You're all set
The last time the beach club was closed (for unknown reasons) the beds were still there ----- and free.
Perfect! That was my exact plan anyway! So since the beach club will be closed, we can feel at ease by bringing our own beverages?
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Perfect! That was my exact plan anyway! So since the beach club will be closed, we can feel at ease by bringing our own beverages?
yep
(if it's closed)
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Perfect! That was my exact plan anyway! So since the beach club will be closed, we can feel at ease by bringing our own beverages?

You are more then welcome to come along.....The Paraiso being shutdown also sounds good to me.....they have a nice reef to snorkel there.
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You are more then welcome to come along.....The Paraiso being shutdown also sounds good to me.....they have a nice reef to snorkel there.
Thanks Any certain day you are thinking of going?
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Thanks Any certain day you are thinking of going?
What day is left where we are not doing something..... If we can leave early in the morning whatever day that may be we can be back around three or four.....Now I must warn you.....It will be more a nature kind of get away......We will hit the museum and go to the top of the lookout......Go take a dip at the secret beach......Stop at the bridges......Stop again at another really nice beach then head to PA.....Where we will eat at a really good restaurant thats really cheap...We could not believe how cheap considering all we had.....And the quality of food they served. It's a fun drive and alot of beautiful things along the way.......Do you like nature Red?
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