More movies: Butt Kicking 101

[Tony&Cheri]

This one is probably not gonna have wide appeal or generate much response...but I'm laid up with a bad back, bored sh*tl*ss, and so what the hell. Cuff will know these movies at least. I hope.

Today I was watching Bad Day at Black Rock and got to thinking about my favorite fight scenes in movies. Since I'm a martial arts guy I like movies using the arts but not in action or chop-sockey flicks...real movies where the fight scene has to be believable. Here are the five of my favorites:

1. Blood on the Sun. (1945). James Cagney as a reporter spying on the Japanese in WWII. There is a prolonged Judo fight with real moves and honest techniques between Cagney (who learned Judo for the movie) and John Halloran a judo black belt who choreographed the fight scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SlFNB_-s_o

2. Bad Day at Black Rock. (1955) Classic movie directed by John Sturgis about racism in America...this time against Asians. Spencer Tracy is the one armed war vet who does battle with Ernest Borgnine using Ju-jitsu. Great stuff by an uncredited stunt director.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oysXuCup67A

3. Marlow. (1969) Bruce Lee in one of his first American appearances is a Kung-fu Hit-man sent to the office of Private Eye James Garner to intimidate him. Lee demolishes the office and the furniture in a series of kicks and strikes and finishes by standing directly below the light fixture, leaping straight up and kicking it to pieces. What a great scene!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAP_JJPsFV4

4. Who'll Stop the Rain. (1978). One of my all time favorite movies. All about loyalty and sticking up for your friends. Shit like that. Nick Nolte is the ex-Marine, modern day Samurai caught in the middle of a drug deal gone bad. There is a brutal, realistic scene where Nolte uses his martial arts training to disarm and beat two enforcers sent by a crooked cop to hurt Noltes' friends. Choreographed by judo expert Bobby Bass. http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/5441...Rain-/trailers (Sorry, I couldn't find the fight scene. This is the movie trailer...still cool)

5. Lethal Weapon. (1987). The first one. At the end of the movie the fight between Mel Gibson and Gary Busey was choreographed by three different martial artists including Rorion Gracie, my first ju-jitsu teacher. As realistic a fight as you will find on film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnSHQHXvaTU

If you are a fan of movie fights like me...check these out.

Fight Club my ass.

Papa T

[Sideways]

well....for fear of being banished from Fight-town...

I really like all the newer Chinese flicks coming out i.e. Hero, CTHD, etc...

Still a big fan of Bloodsport..... Under Siege, and although not that realistic per se...alot of the Matrix fight scenes.

[SUNBABY]

Never was a big fan of those types of movies but I did enjoy "Kill Bill".

I also used to enjoy watching Chuck Norris ..and mostly his stand in, during the fight scenes during the filming of many "Walker" episodes. Almost as good as the craft services.

[Ginger]

Are we listing our favorite movie fight scenes?

How about "Bloodsport"...some great fight scenes in there...with Chong Li vs Jean Claude Van Damme.

or how about Bob Barker vs. Happy Gilmore, "Happy Gilmore"

"The Price is WRONG, bitch!"

[Tony&Cheri]

Originally Posted by Ginger

Are we listing our favorite movie fight scenes?

How about "Bloodsport"...some great fight scenes in there...with Chong Li vs Jean Claude Van Damme.

or how about Bob Barker vs. Happy Gilmore, "Happy Gilmore"

"The Price is WRONG, bitch!"

Absolutely!!!

Add to my list

King Kong vs the T-Rex in King Kong (original version)

John Wayne vs Victor McClaughlin in the Quiet Man

The Daryl Hannah vs Uma Thurman in Kill Bill (or was it Kill Bill II?)

BTW I edited my first post to add clips from the movies.

Papa T

[SUNBABY]

Not a movie..but who could ever forget Alexis and Crystal Carrington having a cat fight? Classic!

[bufante]

Sorry big guy, the irony of you down with a bad back and talking about butt kicking movies didn't escape me. I hope you feel better.

I must agree with Lethal Weapon...great scene and I should have know a Gracie had something to do with it just based on the arm bar!

As far as butt kicking movies go...I would say the bar scene in Out for Justice was good. Anything by Seagal is decent, except when he tries to kick people!

YouTube

Not realistic but entertaining none the less and I think the only Capoeria fight scene in a movie...

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As far as not martial arts type fights, the end of Unforgiven with Clint Eastwood is awesome!

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[Tony&Cheri]

Originally Posted by bufante

Sorry big guy, the irony of you down with a bad back and talking about butt kicking movies didn't escape me. I hope you feel better.

Yeah its probably a good thing old man Gracie teaches how to fight from the prone position.

Originally Posted by bufante

I must agree with Lethal Weapon...great scene and I should have know a Gracie had something to do with it just based on the arm bar!

Busey gets taken out in the end with a triangle leg choke...the same move Royce got Dan Sevren with.

Originally Posted by bufante

As far as butt kicking movies go...I would say the bar scene in Out for Justice was good. Anything by Seagal is decent, except when he tries to kick people!

Agreed. When he sticks to what he knows...it shows. Love the Under Seige movies.

Originally Posted by bufante

Not realistic but entertaining none the less and I think the only Capoeria fight scene in a movie...

Capoeria is to martial arts what brussel sprouts are to good food.

Originally Posted by bufante

As far as not martial arts type fights, the end of Unforgiven with Clint Eastwood is awesome!

Absolutely. Clint's the Man! My son just started watching the "Man with No Name" trilogy". I felt like a failure as a Dad when i realized he had never seen them before.

Papa T

[Cuff]

T~!

GREAT movies....all known for their kick-arse moments!
...but you got me on Nick Nolte's, 'Who'll stop The Rain'.
Definitely going to check it out. Thanks.
And how cool that they're on youtube?
Great addition.

While he wasn't everyone's cup of tea, I always really liked Cagney. One of the first truly athletic actors/hoofers. I hadn't seen that in a LONG, long time. Not since a Cagney retrospective on his life I saw WAY back when Ragtime was in theaters...remember that movie?

I'm very familiar with the Tracy role...In fact we did a Tracy thing one weekend my son and I a few years ago, (Rent movies by actors and themes) and we also did a Borgnine theme (But we'd seen Marty so skipped that one)...

We all love James Garner and Bruce Lee in this family (I got that Garner thing from my Mom, and then my Dad brought home a James Garner autograph signed "Maverick" after playing golf with him one day at the course inside the Indianapolis Motor Speedway)...Marlowe is awesome (except for the lame balcony scene where Lee goes over the side of the building) but NO one puts on a pair of sunglasses with more panache than Bruce... ;-)

We love Lethal Weapon, the first one anyway (I'm kinduv a closet Busey fan, he's so weird and I love it)...and that scene is one the best in any buddy film and even means more now knowing who helped choreograph it.

[Ginger]

I dunno if I should post the youtube link, as it is VERY graphic, so only click if you don't have kids in the room and aren't offended by violence, but I loved the Patricia Arquette/James Gandolfini fight scene from True Romance

YouTube

[bufante]

Originally Posted by Ginger

I dunno if I should post the youtube link, as it is VERY graphic, so only click if you don't have kids in the room and aren't offended by violence, but I loved the Patricia Arquette/James Gandolfini fight scene from True Romance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaaoZcFlOjE

That was a great movie...

[Tony&Cheri]

Originally Posted by Cuff

T~!

GREAT movies....all known for their kick-arse moments!
...but you got me on Nick Nolte's, 'Who'll stop The Rain'.
Definitely going to check it out. Thanks.
And how cool that they're on youtube?
Great addition.

While he wasn't everyone's cup of tea, I always really liked Cagney. One of the first truly athletic actors/hoofers. I hadn't seen that in a LONG, long time. Not since a Cagney retrospective on his life I saw WAY back when Ragtime was in theaters...remember that movie?

I'm very familiar with the Tracy role...In fact we did a Tracy thing one weekend my son and I a few years ago, (Rent movies by actors and themes) and we also did a Borgnine theme (But we'd seen Marty so skipped that one)...

We all love James Garner and Bruce Lee in this family (I got that Garner thing from my Mom, and then my Dad brought home a James Garner autograph signed "Maverick" after playing golf with him one day at the course inside the Indianapolis Motor Speedway)...Marlowe is awesome (except for the lame balcony scene where Lee goes over the side of the building) but NO one puts on a pair of sunglasses with more panache than Bruce... ;-)

We love Lethal Weapon, the first one anyway (I'm kinduv a closet Busey fan, he's so weird and I love it)...and that scene is one the best in any buddy film and even means more now knowing who helped choreograph it.

I agree about Cagney. Unfortunately his prime was so long ago (30's and 40's) that he has been lost to newer generations of movie buffs. He had amazing power on the screen...real energy whether he was dancing, shooting a machine gun or shoving half a grapefruit into a dames face.

And if I had known you hadn't seen "Who'll Stop the Rain" when you were down here I would never have let you guys leave without a dvd showing! Adapted from one of my favorite books (and the only book that I think that captured the insanity of the sixties other than Wolfe's "Electric Kool Aid Acid test) Dog Soldiers by Robert Stone. Really an amazing film. Check it out...soon! Side note...the Ray Hicks character (played by Nolte in the film) is patterned after the legendary beat hipster, friend of Kerouac and Kesey, lover of Ginsberg and scores of beautiful women, sometimes poet, sometimes garage mechanic, alcoholic drug addict, Neal Cassidy. Doncha miss the sixties!

Finally, on the Gary Busey front...He had a small supporting role in another flick with a good fight scene, Point Break. Gotta love a movie where one of the main characters is a meditating karate kicking bank robber named after the first Zen patriarch.

Papa T

[Tony&Cheri]

Originally Posted by Ginger

I dunno if I should post the youtube link, as it is VERY graphic, so only click if you don't have kids in the room and aren't offended by violence, but I loved the Patricia Arquette/James Gandolfini fight scene from True Romance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaaoZcFlOjE

GOOD CALL! Excellent pick. In the same movie is one of the best moments ever put on film...the conversation between Christopher Walken and Dennis Hopper.

Papa T

[Cuff]

Originally Posted by Tony&Cheri

ISide note...the Ray Hicks character (played by Nolte in the film) is patterned after the legendary beat hipster, friend of Kerouac and Kesey, lover of Ginsberg and scores of beautiful women, sometimes poet, sometimes garage mechanic, alcoholic drug addict, Neal Cassidy.

Oh then....that doesn't bode too well for the ending.
That would have been a treat to see it!!